a given situation arousing enough public opinion to warrant tightening up of existing laws.

TOTAL REVIEW OF SEX LAWS NEEDED

"We noed a total review of our sex laws," he stated, "with punishment in relation to the offense."

"Punishment as a deterrent to orime has been a failure since the beginning of time," Dr. Allon said. The mattor of guilt and punishment go hand in hand, and punishment very often adds to orime. Punishment must be as instantaneous as burning your finger by fire or it will not work.

SODOMY LAWS DISCUSSED

Mrs. Minudri pointed out that sodomy is a felony in some states and a misdemeanor in others and that the penalty imposed was also variable.

Dr. Andriola expressed his opposition to sodomy laws as extremely unreasonable. "I only went to college for 8 years, and I still can't understand the language of the law. What is this 'infamous orime against naturo '?"

Mrs. Engle considered sodomy as neither natural or unnatural and suggested it be permitted between heterosexuals as well as homosexuals. As a means of making legal "so-called deviate acts" between consenting adults she hoped that a state congress similar to the Wolfenden Committee could be formed and that proposals of the Model Penal Code of the American Law Institute be considered.

HETEROSEXUAL 'DEVIATION' POINTED OUT

"We would have just as much difficulty in getting votos for permissiveness for heterosexuals as homosexuals. We prefer to deal with a total program. Half-way measures are not feasible," Mr. Burton said.

Mrs. Engle countered, "But if we take up the question of deviations in a heterosexual relationship first, wouldn't

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